When Teens Poach: Illinois/Indiana Shock Arrest
Four “kids,” two states, at least 20 deer.
Nobody likes poachers less than we lawful hunters, although most of us have forgiveness in our hearts for those ignorant of the law or in dire straits. However, sometimes poaching represents something much darker and antisocial, and that seems to be the case in today’s shocking news out of Indiana. Four juveniles, who are not being named due to their ages, are facing charges that span over two states, two years, and at least 20 whitetail deer.
Those numbers don’t tell the whole story of the horror that Indiana and Illinois DNR officers found. The states’ investigation found that the four juveniles had illegally killed more than 20 deer in the two states during the 2019, 2020, and 2021 deer seasons. Multiple deer were shot from trucks, shot with the aid of spotlights at night, and intentionally run over with vehicles, and then stabbed or kicked to death.
The investigation originated on Jan. 7, after Illinois DNR Conservation Police Officers (ICPOs) received information regarding alleged poaching near Mount Carmel, Illinois and Gibson County, Indiana. ICPOs obtained multiple search warrants, executed them on Jan. 8, and contacted Indiana Conservation Officers after discovering that numerous wildlife violations occurred in Indiana.
Indiana Conservation Officers’ portion of a six-month-long multi-state poaching investigation resulted in charges being filed against four juveniles from Mount Carmel, Illinois by the Gibson County Prosecutor’s Office. The juveniles were charged with committing a combined 119 wildlife violations in Indiana and Illinois during a two-year span.
The wide range of misdemeanor violations includes torture or mutilation of a vertebrate animal, wanton waste, illegal taking of white-tailed deer, use of artificial light to take deer /jacklighting, fail to procure non-resident deer license, hunting without landowner consent, criminal trespass, criminal trespass on railroad train car, hunt/shoot from public roadway, take more than one antlered deer, and take/chase wild animal with the use of motor driven conveyance. All suspects are innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law.
Report a poacher today. You may have spared America a future serial killer…or four.
Because of lawyers parents have lost control of their children . You can not spank your child( I said spank not beat) Because they can charge you now this has come back to bite the lawyers and psycology people in their collective butts. They took away one item and added several problems . Now they want to say sorry, Bull. They have helped ruin this country. No you blocked it so quit
Beat the Holy hell out of those loser criminal scumbags. Torture them as they had the deer
Because of lawyers parents have lost control of their children . You can not spank your child( I said spank not beat) Because they can charge you now this has come back to bite the lawyers and psycology people in their collective butts. They took away one item and added several problems . Now they want to say sorry, Bull. They have helped ruin this country.
Amen.
Agree with all of the comments. These boys were not apparently taught respect for life and I question if any for human life. Where were the parents ? They did the crime, then do the time and not a slap on the wrist.
This is exactly how every Serial Killer started.
Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
These “juveniles” need to be watched into the future. They will maim or kill humans next. I have seen people like this. One worked for me, and only got worse after I fired him. He tried to kill a mother and her newborn baby! He dropped old people on purpose at a senior citizen home, to see if they would die. These “juveniles are future killers. If a killing has happened where they live, they should immediately become suspects.
Not to be flippant, but these malcontents ‘sound’ like current radical leftist, criminal-democrat voters.
The parents of the juveniles should be charged as well. They had to know or probably taught them to do what they did. They should all lose their rights to posses a firearm of any kind and the privilege to hunt ever again. They should also loose all of the firearms they used and the vehicles that they used to commit those crimes. And also do some kind of community service with the D.N.R. of each state. Just giving them a fine isn’t going to teach them anything.
The whole lot should forever loose the right to hunt period, and should never be allowed to possess firearms or any type of projectile weapon. It’s a senseless act of torture and unsportsmanlike conduct that leaves every outdoors man and woman upset. We need to defend age old traditions like hunting. Those bastards and others like them need to be seen for the animals they are. Prison is just a holiday in this day of age…exile them to mexico. then they will know suffering and helplessness.
Better yet send them to Mexico with a gun and ammo and see if they can get out of that.
Hunting is a right?
The little sociopaths should be executed.
Feed them to the wild dogs
Hang those little bastards by their balls, strip them naked and shoot them with BB guns to let them feel some of the pain they inflicted on those animals. I don’t hunt anymore, for personal reasons, but I don’t believe in keeping everybody else from hunting. I understand the necessity population control. Over population is a real problem in a time of natural predator loss. The eco narcs just can’t figure out that if they want to control wildfires in California they need to clean out the underbrush and utilize control burns to mitigate the dangers of wildfires. If you don’t do it mother nature will and has taken care of the problem. Same with animals. You don’t clear some out every now and then mother nature will. It will lead to starving animals and more loss of habitat as they forage for food, disease will run rampant and more than just deer will be effected. The whole food chain, from top to bottom will be adversely effected. Doing no-one any good. RGM
Overpopulation of certain types of juveniles for sure.
Another example of the loose attitude toward crime. Ultra left wing prosecutors, (elected with Soros money). In the SF Bay area the SF County DA is the child of parents who were weather underground terrorists serving life sentences for murder, He was raised by other underground members from the 70’s who have been released from prision. He has been unleased on CA residents refusing to prosecute “property” and “non-violent” crimes.
This is happening because they don’t believe anyone will hold them accountable. Put them in an adult prison and let them see what victimization is really like. These punks obviously believe they are at the top of the food chain. Let them spend some time at the bottom.
Let the beatings begin, these kids need it & off to a rubber room! If they don’t get strait now they will keep killing next up people.
They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and be tried as would adults be for this crime, their parents or guardians should also be charged, children learn from their parents and peers.
Some people are just born that way and some learn it from the people they hang out with in school. When you consider that anymore that most parents are way to busy trying to put a roof over their children’s head and food on the table they are not even around their children much. there should be a investigation and then go from there but for you to automatically blame the parents speaks to your lack of knowledge on the subject. When I was young I did the things I did in-spite of my parents attempts to (raise me right) even back then they both had to work full time jobs so I actually raised myself. As a youth I got blamed for things I never did and watching what the so called government reps are allowed to do with no punishment Like Hillary I saw the list of all the statutes she broke and yet not charged if it had been you or me we would still be in jail so excuse me if I have no respect for the law that really only punishes the poor.
I agree. I raised 2 kids in the same household and one is of great character never getting in trouble and the other couldn’t find anything but trouble. The parents are most likely not the problem but should be looked at but DO NOT POINT FINGERS without knowing. Now in regards to the kids they should be taught a serious lesson and have the hammer dropped. There is very little respect from the youth these days along with no accountability which is the root of many problems these days!
Hillary should be hung for treason.
Your correct the law only punishes the poor. If you have enough money you can do whatever you want. Look at MR OJ Simpson.
Execute Hillary for treason.
How did Hillary get into this? She is neither a juvenile nor a poacher. This article addresses juvenile poachers. Please take your right wing insanity elsewhere. Juvenile poachers? Try them, jail them and make legal hunters a bit safer.
Punctuation… it is a thing! I understand your parents were too busy to raise you, but only because their priorities were incorrectly ordered. Nothing is more important than properly raising a child. And while nature versus nurture is also a thing, it can be overcome. Use of the excuse “some people are born that way” does not account for a persons ability to improve him- or herself and choose his or her behavior. And that excuse removes accountability for that behavior. All of the juveniles and all of the guardians should be held accountable for their actions that led to this irresponsible slaughter of animals and morals.
This type of behavior escalates if not forcibly stopped. No telling when these “kids” would move on to two legged prey
You assume that has not already happened.
Why?
Hi Soylent pets,
I empathize with your concern. The respectful design that considers life and Word sacred, obeys that Word by us, individually responsible to uphold “innocent until proven guilty”.. Whether evil people do so, or not. That’s what separates us from the Hillarys and other truly and proven to be evil-minded people. May God bless!
People that do these sort of things are made, not born. Essentially they learned this behavior and their parents need an a** kicking.
Too right.
The age of reason is seven. These so called juveniles knew what they were doing and should be treated as adults. The penalties assessed are too low – let them break rocks in the hit Alabama sun for a couple of summers.
Unfortunately, game law violations in most states are actually only civil charges, The choice of weapon can become more of the criminal charges. But the poaching, no license permits etc. are all civil charges. Same charges for adult and children like a not mowing your lawn charge.
Well, not entirely true. Now, being Juvy’s might effect it, but for adults the violations CAN carry Prison time, as was a case recently here in Colorado.
In one case, 2 men lost all their hunting gear including guns and a truck, and had to pay more than $15,000 each.
In another case, the man is banned from hunting for life in ALL states except Hawaii, served 6 months in jail, 3 years probation, and has to perform 2 years of public service.
He too lost ALL gear, guns and truck in the sentencing.
Hardly a “not mowing your lawn” thing.
The Colorado DOW is hardcore on poaching, they view it as a Revenue loss as well as a way to make examples of poachers.
Where I lived about 30 years ago was a deer haven. They gathered at night in the fields across the road. Sometime herds of 10-20 at a time One night a group of young men decided they would spotlight that field from the road. I was in the front office and didn’t realize what was happening until they pulled up in the dune buggy and turned on the lights shining out into the field of deer. My neighbor on the hill about an acre away to my right had expressed his distaste about the spotlighting several times. As I was deciding what to do out of the corner of my eye I saw a flash. A moment later I heard the boom boom of the shotgun and the shot hitting the kudzu near the road. The lights went out and they were gone. Last time I believe there was any spotlighting on that field while I lived there.
Now I’m not endorsing any such action theirs or his just telling the story.
These little psychos aren’t poachers. Poachers take animals illegally for the meat. These four sociopathic scumbags ARE future mass murderers. Put them all in separate psychiatric hospitals for a minimum of 10 years each with no early out.
I agree with you with everything but the definition of poachers… poaching is simply killing of an animal without proper paperwork, License, Permits etc. But Future Mass murders I agree…
I say let the law abiding hunters have them for 1 hour and the courts can have what’s left… better yet, mandatory enlistment in the marines and let the drill sergeants mold them into men. Cannot get out until 20 years are paid in full.
Frank, Why do you want to saddle the Marine Corps with punks like this?
Lol. He wants to send them to a branch where kids with daddy’s issues get straightened out. Least in the Corp they will be of use to ‘merica VS sitting in a prison cell or a padded room. They wanna shoot shit, uncle Sam will give them something to shoot
They would probably wash out of Marines, they already have a problem with authority and discipline.
If you put these animals in the corps they will just become more efficient in the art of killing. and they don’t deserve to wear a uniform that represents our great country.. Exile them to mexico strip them of citizenship.
I’m not disagreeing with you, just a couple thoughts. I know a few people that 30 to 50yrs ago were given the direction of a Judge to join or sit and it made an amazing difference in their life. You are correct they are not deserving. In today’s soft entrance/washout military it probably wouldn’t work. Secondly, if sent south without citizenship, they’d then re-enter with more rights than you and I.
Isn’t that sad
As an 8yr old I tossed the neighbors cat back over the fence by its tail because it was messing with my dog. My parents came down on me swift and hard on bad treatment of animals because they were involved in my life and I learned my lesson (spanking). Apparently there’s no involvement here.